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Reflection Questions Day 2
Poll:
  1. Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result?
  2. For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why?
  3. How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma?

1. Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result? 2. For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why? 3. How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma?

If one has the notion of isavasya idam sarvam then one can succeed in dropping ones individuality and proceeding to the core.
The jiva can see itself as Ishvara, thus resulting in liberation of the self from this cycle of life and death.


If one has the notion of isavasya idam sarvam then one can succeed in dropping ones individuality and proceeding to the core. The jiva can see itself as Ishvara, thus resulting in liberation of the self from this cycle of life and death.

The Upanishad prescribes duty to be performed by people who are pravrutti oriented.Ever engaged in their karma in action here in this world.
As long as they perform their duties religiously and with dedication then Sakama vritti will eventually lead to nishkama vritti.This then will become their focus and such disciplined persons will not go astray as they will remain within the gambit of do’s and font’s and ultimately achieve chitta shuddhi.
Purity of mind will awaken thoughts and thus sakama karma within the bounds of dharma will take the individual to nishkama karma and to isavasyam.


The Upanishad prescribes duty to be performed by people who are pravrutti oriented.Ever engaged in their karma in action here in this world. As long as they perform their duties religiously and with dedication then Sakama vritti will eventually lead to nishkama vritti.This then will become their focus and such disciplined persons will not go astray as they will remain within the gambit of do’s and font’s and ultimately achieve chitta shuddhi. Purity of mind will awaken thoughts and thus sakama karma within the bounds of dharma will take the individual to nishkama karma and to isavasyam.

.Kurvan Eva indicates nishkama karma by saying that if the body and the indriyan ( karya karna sangathan) is facilitated the self / atma will envelope this whole world and thus all karmas performed by the jiva will be nishkama.
As then the jiva does not perform karmas motivated by ignorance but through realisation.No longer as an individual because now he has dropped all individuality and merged into the whole.
No more in the realm of samsara karya.


.Kurvan Eva indicates nishkama karma by saying that if the body and the indriyan ( karya karna sangathan) is facilitated the self / atma will envelope this whole world and thus all karmas performed by the jiva will be nishkama. As then the jiva does not perform karmas motivated by ignorance but through realisation.No longer as an individual because now he has dropped all individuality and merged into the whole. No more in the realm of samsara karya.
  1. When one has the notion of ishavasyam idam sarvam.He sees everyone as Himself, everything as His own.So he does not have desire for his wealth or others wealth.He is freed from kama(desire ) & then all negative qualities krodha (anger) lobha (greed) moha(attachment) madha(pride) matsarya(jealousy).When he is freed from all, he realises his true Self.

1. When one has the notion of ishavasyam idam sarvam. He sees everyone as Himself, everything as His own. So he does not have desire for his wealth or others wealth. He is freed from kama(desire ) & then all negative qualities krodha (anger) lobha (greed) moha(attachment) madha(pride) matsarya(jealousy). When he is freed from all, he realises his true Self.
edited Sep 24 '23 at 6:17 am
  1. For those who have desire ,Upanishad prescribes duty because it gives a sense of discipline. To go from Nishiddha karma(prohibited acts)-> Sakama Karma( approved by scriptures but done with desire).Then they can move to Karma Yoga ( gives Chitta Shuddhi: purity of mind) -> Upasana (gives Chitta ekagrata : focused mind)-> knowledge of Ishavasyam sarvam idam : liberation

2. For those who have desire ,Upanishad prescribes duty because it gives a sense of discipline. To go from Nishiddha karma(prohibited acts)-> Sakama Karma( approved by scriptures but done with desire). Then they can move to Karma Yoga ( gives Chitta Shuddhi: purity of mind) -> Upasana (gives Chitta ekagrata : focused mind)-> knowledge of Ishavasyam sarvam idam : liberation
edited Sep 24 '23 at 6:23 am
  1. Kurvan Eva is mentioned for those who have desire action is the only method.If it is Sakama Karma there are many actions which are desire oriented; due to which mind will go in many directions & increase Raga,dvesha(likes dislikes).This doesn't help in liberation If it is Nishkama Karma then mind is disciplined with sense of duty & Raga Dvesha reduceswhich provides way for liberation.So it means Nishkama Karma only

3. Kurvan Eva is mentioned for those who have desire action is the only method. If it is Sakama Karma there are many actions which are desire oriented; due to which mind will go in many directions & increase Raga,dvesha(likes dislikes). This doesn't help in liberation If it is Nishkama Karma then mind is disciplined with sense of duty & Raga Dvesha reduces which provides way for liberation. So it means Nishkama Karma only

Notion of 'Ishavasyam idam sarvam' refers to 'All this to be pervaded by the Self' and means seeing oneself as the Whole. This is enabled by going into one's core when one drops one's Individuality. Dropping one's individuality also means dropping one's totality and only then one can proceed to the Reality and seeing the Oneness between the Self and the Brahman. Thus Ishavasyam idam sarvam results in seeing the always existing reality which is oneness of Brahman and the Self.


Notion of 'Ishavasyam idam sarvam' refers to 'All this to be pervaded by the Self' and means seeing oneself as the Whole. This is enabled by going into one's core when one drops one's Individuality. Dropping one's individuality also means dropping one's totality and only then one can proceed to the Reality and seeing the Oneness between the Self and the Brahman. Thus Ishavasyam idam sarvam results in seeing the always existing reality which is oneness of Brahman and the Self.

Reflection Question 1. The goal of life is to free oneself from the cycle of birth and death(samsara) The way to achieve this is by REALISING THE SELF. We already are the SELF, pure, the all pervading consciousness and Bliss. We dont know this, because of the Slime of IGNORANCE covering the SELF. When we Scrub off this slime, we become aware of ourselves as the all pervading SELF. ISHAVASYA IDAM SARVAM when achieved: we see ourselves in every sentient and non-sentient creation in the world.Then what is the result? Result: We will not covet another person's wealth. There is no one else but the SELF. So everything is MINE anyway !! Why covet another"s wealth? We will not hurt anyone else as that would be hurting ourselves.That should put an end to all crime, all wars between nations too. There will be eternal peace in this world !!
Reflection Question 2. For the person who has desires, the upanishad prescribes the PERFORMANCE OF DUTIES. The world should become his Karmabhoomi. When duties are performed regularly without fail, THE DISCIPLINE WILL RESULT IN CHANGES IN OURSELVES AND Slowly lead to Nishkama Karma, where our focus shifts from the fruits of our actions to the SELF.Purification of the heart results.Ishavasya idam sarvam is the final result achieved.
**Reflection Question 3. Kurvan eva. Once Ishavasya idam sarvam is achieved then all ACTIONS performed by that individual become UNACTION(note the spelling UNACTION) as GURUJI says. THey are done with no selfish desires but for the benefit of the society(Nishkama Karma).


**Reflection Question 1. The goal of life is to free oneself from the cycle of birth and death(samsara) The way to achieve this is by REALISING THE SELF. We already are the SELF, pure, the all pervading consciousness and Bliss. We dont know this, because of the Slime of IGNORANCE covering the SELF. When we Scrub off this slime, we become aware of ourselves as the all pervading SELF. ISHAVASYA IDAM SARVAM when achieved: we see ourselves in every sentient and non-sentient creation in the world.Then what is the result? Result: We will not covet another person's wealth. There is no one else but the SELF. So everything is MINE anyway !! Why covet another"s wealth? We will not hurt anyone else as that would be hurting ourselves.That should put an end to all crime, all wars between nations too. There will be eternal peace in this world !! **Reflection Question 2. For the person who has desires, the upanishad prescribes the PERFORMANCE OF DUTIES. The world should become his Karmabhoomi. When duties are performed regularly without fail, THE DISCIPLINE WILL RESULT IN CHANGES IN OURSELVES AND Slowly lead to Nishkama Karma, where our focus shifts from the fruits of our actions to the SELF.Purification of the heart results.Ishavasya idam sarvam is the final result achieved. **Reflection Question 3. Kurvan eva. Once Ishavasya idam sarvam is achieved then all ACTIONS performed by that individual become UNACTION(note the spelling UNACTION) as GURUJI says. THey are done with no selfish desires but for the benefit of the society(Nishkama Karma).

The Upanishad prescribes the 'Duty to be performed' to one who believes desires need to be fulfilled for gaining happiness and has a nature that is totally action focused i.e externally focused on the world. Additionally such a person is simply not attracted to going internal and also to 'unaction' or renunciation aspects as he does not find any value in these concepts.
The Upanishad prescribes 'Duty to be performed' to such individuals who in fact constitute the vast majority of population inhabiting the world because such desire fulfilling action oriented persons are likely to follow an 'action oriented path' and when intense involved Actions are performed as one's duties ( and not with much focus on the results) then purification of the mind - Chitta shuddhi starts to happen. Slowly such people start finding happiness in performing their duty directed actions themselves and the focus and joy they get from the results of their actions reduce. In effect what started as 'SAKAMA Karma' slowly gets converted to 'NISHKAMA Karma' whereupon their progress towards Chitta shuddhi accelerates and soon leads to Chitta Ekagrata. Once they attain Chitta Shuddhi and Chitta Ekagrata then their subtler mind starts appreciating the higher values of life the they become ready and eligible for the Gnana Marga! Thus the Upanishad by this prescription eventually enables in bringing the action oriented and natured person into the path of Knowledge!


The Upanishad prescribes the 'Duty to be performed' to one who believes desires need to be fulfilled for gaining happiness and has a nature that is totally action focused i.e externally focused on the world. Additionally such a person is simply not attracted to going internal and also to 'unaction' or renunciation aspects as he does not find any value in these concepts. The Upanishad prescribes 'Duty to be performed' to such individuals who in fact constitute the vast majority of population inhabiting the world because such desire fulfilling action oriented persons are likely to follow an 'action oriented path' and when intense involved Actions are performed as one's duties ( and not with much focus on the results) then purification of the mind - Chitta shuddhi starts to happen. Slowly such people start finding happiness in performing their duty directed actions themselves and the focus and joy they get from the results of their actions reduce. In effect what started as 'SAKAMA Karma' slowly gets converted to 'NISHKAMA Karma' whereupon their progress towards Chitta shuddhi accelerates and soon leads to Chitta Ekagrata. Once they attain Chitta Shuddhi and Chitta Ekagrata then their subtler mind starts appreciating the higher values of life the they become ready and eligible for the Gnana Marga! Thus the Upanishad by this prescription eventually enables in bringing the action oriented and natured person into the path of Knowledge!

Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam..


The notion will help me go to my core - to the Reality. By reaching the core (Reality),


Individuality and Totality (also) will be dropped


Ignorance and its effects, kaarya-kaarana. Sanghaat will be removed.


One will be free from desire, anger, greed etc


All Lacks of his life ends


saadhana chatushtya will be natural to such a mahatma


Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam.. The notion will help me go to my core - to the Reality. By reaching the core (Reality), ## Individuality and Totality (also) will be dropped ## Ignorance and its effects, kaarya-kaarana. Sanghaat will be removed. ## One will be free from desire, anger, greed etc ## All Lacks of his life ends ## saadhana chatushtya will be natural to such a mahatma

For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why?


A.
If one doesn't have abidance or keenness to know the Self-knowledge and those who have desires, upanishad prescribe duty to be performed.


By doing this duty, one may start from sakaam karma (pravritti) to akaam karma (nivritti) via karmayog.


By performing duties, one will be able to
1) free oneself from raag-dvesh
2) discipline oneself
3) no new paapa is generated
4) heart becomes purified for karmayog for chitta shuddhi and chitta ekagrata


For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why? A. If one doesn't have abidance or keenness to know the Self-knowledge and those who have desires, upanishad prescribe duty to be performed. By doing this duty, one may start from sakaam karma (pravritti) to akaam karma (nivritti) via karmayog. By performing duties, one will be able to 1) free oneself from raag-dvesh 2) discipline oneself 3) no new paapa is generated 4) heart becomes purified for karmayog for chitta shuddhi and chitta ekagrata

The word 'EVA" used alongwith 'Kurvan' is what gives the emphasis that such person's inclination is work alone (and not the results). And when the verse continues to say that the person lives a 100 years doing work alone it clearly follows that the person is intoxicated by the work alone - i.e he gets happiness, satisfaction by the performing the actions themselves as otherwise it is not possible to continue working alone, performing without let up for such long durations like 100 years. If results focus were there than it follows that these results world sometimes be favourable and sometimes unfavourable. And when unfavouable results come it is bound to demotivate, and demoralise the person thereby leading to flagging/reducing intensity of his actions and this would therefore not be possible to be sustatined for long durations like 100 years etc. In effect the person is practising Nishkama Karma as if the karma was based on desires then he would have to be happy when his results are favourable and vice versa. It is therefore clear that in this verse the usage of the word 'EVA' is what effectively indicates that Nishkama Karma is meant.


The word 'EVA" used alongwith 'Kurvan' is what gives the emphasis that such person's inclination is work alone (and not the results). And when the verse continues to say that the person lives a 100 years doing work alone it clearly follows that the person is intoxicated by the work alone - i.e he gets happiness, satisfaction by the performing the actions themselves as otherwise it is not possible to continue working alone, performing without let up for such long durations like 100 years. If results focus were there than it follows that these results world sometimes be favourable and sometimes unfavourable. And when unfavouable results come it is bound to demotivate, and demoralise the person thereby leading to flagging/reducing intensity of his actions and this would therefore not be possible to be sustatined for long durations like 100 years etc. In effect the person is practising Nishkama Karma as if the karma was based on desires then he would have to be happy when his results are favourable and vice versa. It is therefore clear that in this verse the usage of the word 'EVA' is what effectively indicates that Nishkama Karma is meant.

For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why?


The dutyis prescribed by the upanisad for the people who follow the Pravritti Marg.
Being in the pravritti marg, it is the responsibility of an individual to take care of all who are dependents and associated to him.
Also, this marg is for the ones who can not leave the desires. To fulfill the desires it is advised by the upanishads to do the Sakaam Karma which will further help in reaching to the Niskam Karma


For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why? The dutyis prescribed by the upanisad for the people who follow the Pravritti Marg. Being in the pravritti marg, it is the responsibility of an individual to take care of all who are dependents and associated to him. Also, this marg is for the ones who can not leave the desires. To fulfill the desires it is advised by the upanishads to do the Sakaam Karma which will further help in reaching to the Niskam Karma

How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma?


Since the Karma or the duties is part of the Pravritti Marg, the Verse 2 is indicated for the ones who have desires and wish to work for it.
Therefore, it is advised that the person fulfills the duties through sakaam karma which will help him to achieve Niskaam karma. And the desires associated will finally cease to exist.


How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma? Since the Karma or the duties is part of the Pravritti Marg, the Verse 2 is indicated for the ones who have desires and wish to work for it. Therefore, it is advised that the person fulfills the duties through sakaam karma which will help him to achieve Niskaam karma. And the desires associated will finally cease to exist.

Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result?
This notion helps to make one understand that everything is all pervaded by God and is conveying the mahavakya " Tat Tvam Asi".
It also helps one to get rid of all the desires. When everything is you, what is the need to have a desire for it?


Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result? This notion helps to make one understand that everything is all pervaded by God and is conveying the mahavakya " Tat Tvam Asi". It also helps one to get rid of all the desires. When everything is you, what is the need to have a desire for it?

Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result?


Answer:The notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam is needed as it denotes the Mahavakhya. It is the entirety of the shastra. The Self pervades the whole Nama-rupa prapancha. Here Iśa means that which governs, propels or enables Karya-Karana sanghāta (body-antar and bahir indriya) and that is propelled by antaryāmi (meaning, seated within us and propels everything), inner propeller. And vas means to pervade or cover. That pratyagātma is to envelope the whole world or cosmos.


So, do not limit yourself to the body or till the body, see outside the body and see that also is pervaded by the Self. So, this brings the notion "aham eva idam sarvam", meaning I am the adishtānam in my true nature.


The result is that the individuality drops, then that Reality is one and it's counter part totality is also dropped by going to the inner core. By dropping the individuality, protect yourself from the anxieties rooted from ignorance and its effects (kamadi shat ripu). So, one becomes free of any wishes and wants as there is absence of individuality. I am this body notion is dropped.


For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why?


Answer:The upanishad is prescribing duty to be performed to those who are neither inclined in the direction of the vairgya, shama, dama, etc... nor has the abidance of this knowledge of the Self. Meaning if the person is not keen on the atma vidya, then pravritti marga is given to them. Because they have the deha abhimanam strongly and look for doing sakama karma. They desire to live in this world for a long period of time engaged firmly in action or devoted to action. They don't want to give up this desire for action. So pravritti marga is the best suited or advised for them.


How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma?


Answer:kurvan eva is indicating niṣkāma-karma because


  • eva denotes without any carelessness and being alert and engaged in action and
  • being dedicated to do his duties or actions as he is firmly identified with his upadi, he performs dedicated action to grow.

    In this manner, he being

  • taken up his duty.
  • Focussing on that duty
  • Dedicated to that duty

He gets hanker to hold on and not taken away by kama adhi, and is able to focus, he gets the ability to free himself as this itself keeps the raga (attachment) and devsha (aversion) at bay.

  • It keeps the person disciplined.
  • It removes pratyavaya dosha and slowly nobility is awakened and changes start to happen and he moves from sakama to nishkama and then to Iśavasya idam sarvam.

Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **Answer:**The notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam is needed as it denotes the Mahavakhya. It is the entirety of the shastra. The Self pervades the whole Nama-rupa prapancha. Here Iśa means that which governs, propels or enables Karya-Karana sanghāta (body-antar and bahir indriya) and that is propelled by antaryāmi (meaning, seated within us and propels everything), inner propeller. And vas means to pervade or cover. That pratyagātma is to envelope the whole world or cosmos. So, do not limit yourself to the body or till the body, see outside the body and see that also is pervaded by the Self. So, this brings the notion "aham eva idam sarvam", meaning I am the adishtānam in my true nature. **The result** is that the individuality drops, then that Reality is one and it's counter part totality is also dropped by going to the inner core. By dropping the individuality, protect yourself from the anxieties rooted from ignorance and its effects (kamadi shat ripu). So, one becomes free of any wishes and wants as there is absence of individuality. I am this body notion is dropped. For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why? ------------------------------------------------------------------- **Answer:**The upanishad is prescribing duty to be performed to those who are neither inclined in the direction of the vairgya, shama, dama, etc... nor has the abidance of this knowledge of the Self. Meaning if the person is not keen on the atma vidya, then pravritti marga is given to them. Because they have the deha abhimanam strongly and look for doing sakama karma. They desire to live in this world for a long period of time engaged firmly in action or devoted to action. They don't want to give up this desire for action. So pravritti marga is the best suited or advised for them. How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma? ------------------------------------------------------- **Answer:**kurvan eva is indicating niṣkāma-karma because - eva denotes without any carelessness and being alert and engaged in action and - being dedicated to do his duties or actions as he is firmly identified with his upadi, he performs dedicated action to grow. In this manner, he being - taken up his duty. - Focussing on that duty - Dedicated to that duty He gets hanker to hold on and not taken away by kama adhi, and is able to focus, he gets the ability to free himself as this itself keeps the raga (attachment) and devsha (aversion) at bay. - It keeps the person disciplined. - It removes pratyavaya dosha and slowly nobility is awakened and changes start to happen and he moves from sakama to nishkama and then to Iśavasya idam sarvam.
edited Sep 24 '23 at 12:53 pm

1.Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result?


With the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam you drop the individualty and see your Self as the totality, everything is You only, the all pervasive Self, as a result desire will ceases


2.For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why?


The upaniṣad prescribes the duty to be performed for the person who is neither inclined to renunciate individuality nor has abidance in Atmaviddhya. Dedicated performance of duty will pave the way for the higher by giving Chitta-suddhi.


3.How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma?


kurvan eva means only by doing; by performance of the duty person will get purification of heart as a result he starts moving towards performing actions with Isvararpan-buddhi, in this way kurvan eva is indicating niṣkāma-karma.


1.Why should one have the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam and what is its result? With the notion of īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam you drop the individualty and see your Self as the totality, everything is You only, the all pervasive Self, as a result desire will ceases 2.For whom does the upaniṣad prescribe duty to be performed and why? The upaniṣad prescribes the duty to be performed for the person who is neither inclined to renunciate individuality nor has abidance in Atmaviddhya. Dedicated performance of duty will pave the way for the higher by giving Chitta-suddhi. 3.How is kurvan eva (verse 2) indicating niṣkāma-karma? kurvan eva means only by doing; by performance of the duty person will get purification of heart as a result he starts moving towards performing actions with Isvararpan-buddhi, in this way kurvan eva is indicating niṣkāma-karma.

1) We should do 6to realize our innerself and thus be be able to attain the goal without any earthly attachment.
2) chitta shudhi is what prescribed or dictated by the upanishads to help atma attain higher revelations.
3) nishkama karma is the path where we carry-on with our duty and expecting no result of it. It simply means purity of heart and dedication.


1) We should do 6to realize our innerself and thus be be able to attain the goal without any earthly attachment. 2) chitta shudhi is what prescribed or dictated by the upanishads to help atma attain higher revelations. 3) nishkama karma is the path where we carry-on with our duty and expecting no result of it. It simply means purity of heart and dedication.

1)When we have the notion that the world is pervaded by the Lord & you are not different from Lord . You experience the poornathwam. There will be no desire to attain anything more in life. You become fully contented.


2) For a person who is not interested in Atma vidhya, who still has got desires to earn name ,fame ,lots of wealth and comfort, our scriptures prescribe duties to be performed.He is advised to do his duty according to the injunction given in the scriptures. When he sincerely does his duties it gives him purity of mind & he slowly shifts from desire prompted actions to nishkama karma.(He makes his karma in to karmayoga) This purifies him further and he slowly gets interested in knowing about the Self.(Atma vidhya)


3)When a person does dedicated & noble work his mind is purified . In the beginning even if he does desire prompted activities, slowly he starts doing activities only for the sake of the work without expecting any personal gain. It then becomes Nishkama karma.


1)When we have the notion that the world is pervaded by the Lord & you are not different from Lord . You experience the poornathwam. There will be no desire to attain anything more in life. You become fully contented. 2) For a person who is not interested in Atma vidhya, who still has got desires to earn name ,fame ,lots of wealth and comfort, our scriptures prescribe duties to be performed.He is advised to do his duty according to the injunction given in the scriptures. When he sincerely does his duties it gives him purity of mind & he slowly shifts from desire prompted actions to nishkama karma.(He makes his karma in to karmayoga) This purifies him further and he slowly gets interested in knowing about the Self.(Atma vidhya) 3)When a person does dedicated & noble work his mind is purified . In the beginning even if he does desire prompted activities, slowly he starts doing activities only for the sake of the work without expecting any personal gain. It then becomes Nishkama karma.
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