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KeymasterYes, also the nature of the Self and the doer are antagonistic to each other. Karma or upasana is done with the notion of “i am the body’. The result also is for the body,mind etc and not for the Self.
April 11, 2024 at 7:23 pm in reply to: online course materials after completion of the course #623917CIF Admin
KeymasterPlease send an email to homestudycourses@chinfo.org. The discussion forum is only for technical or subject matter doubt clarifications.
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KeymasterHari Om, Please send an email to homestudycourses@chinfo.org
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KeymasterParyaaptam has two meanings: limited (smaller) & sufficient. Aparyaaptam too has two meanings: unlimited (larger) & not sufficient. As explained in the talk, Duryodhana is having conflicting emotions of ego and fear. This conflict is shown by the opposite meanings that come out of these words. He thinks that the Kaurava army is bigger, but not sufficient. Whereas, the Pandava army is smaller, yet sufficient. The first meaning shows his ego and the second meaning shows his fear. Hope this clarifies.
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KeymasterYes, though the question is hypothetical
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KeymasterHari Om, kindly send an email to easysanskrit@chinfo.org.
April 11, 2024 at 7:23 pm in reply to: Difference between Mantra, Stotram, Slokam and Sutra? #623885CIF Admin
KeymasterHari Om.
A mantra is usually referred to something which is Vedic (Sruti). Stuti can be smriti and is usually in praise of Gods. Sloka is usually refered to verses that are non Vedic. A sutra is a line which is very brief which when explained has a lot of content but is expressed in very few words.
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KeymasterHari Om,
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KeymasterHari Om,
Most of the questions you have asked will get resolved by the end of the Course. Just to add briefly Vedanta never advocates running away from life or responsibilities. Desire is defined as a fulfilment /happiness one seeks from the world. This wrong notion is to be renounced not work or responsibilities. The Realised Master also works in the world and achieves great things, but his happiness is from within and not dependent on the world. As you study, things will get clearer. All the best.
April 11, 2024 at 7:23 pm in reply to: Why do the Veda’s and Bhagavad Gita’s way to achieve Moksha differ? #623897CIF Admin
KeymasterHari Om,
The ultimate aim of the Vedas is to take oneself to emancipation or Moksa, there is no contradiction between the final message of Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita. Vedanta being a darsana, the defintion of Moksa may be differ from darsana to darsana.
April 11, 2024 at 7:23 pm in reply to: Why do the Veda’s and Bhagavad Gita’s way to achieve Moksha differ? #623898CIF Admin
KeymasterHari Om,
The ultimate aim of the Vedas is to take oneself to emancipation or Moksa, there is no contradiction between the final message of Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita. Vedanta being a darsana, the defintion of Moksa may be differ from darsana to darsana.
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KeymasterHari Om,
Please mention the course and lesson name so we help you accordingly.
With Prem an Om
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KeymasterThere are a few points here. Direct cause, knowledge, liberation. I’ll try to explain as I understand it.
Direct cause — when it is said that the Knowledge is the direct cause it means in the end that is the main cause. E.g. if I say the direct cause of hunger-removal is swallowing the food then it means that no matter what I do, until I actually swallow the food, the hunger will not go away. But we need to understand that there are other causes here – e.g. cooking, putting the food in mouth, act of chewing, etc. but of course the final and ultimate result of all of this is that the food goes down the throat. That is the direct cause. Similarly, for ‘liberation’, the self-knowledge is the direct cause (this is the only thing that will remove the ignorance) but there are other causes that will lead one to knowledge (e.g. mind purification, shravaNam, etc.)
Knowledge — here, knowledge = self-knowledge and it means the generation of the aham-brahma-asti vRtti in the mind (it is not the words, it is not the books, it is specifically the outcome of the shravanam in the form of doubt-free understanding). This will make my nature evident to me and that dispels the ignorance.
Liberation — liberation means freedom from samsara. Samsara is result of ignorance. Knowledge is a direct cause of liberation means that once my own nature is evident to me (after chittashuddhi and shravanam, mananam, etc.), the ignorance will just disappear (meaning I will not attach undue value to objects based on my raga/dvesha). So nothing more than knowledge is required to know that I am ever free and wasn’t bound in the first place. It is like me having my glasses on my head and looking for it. After a bit of searching a friend (whom I trust) points out they are on my head. His words generate the understanding in my head. And that understanding alone ‘gives’ me my glasses – I really didn’t need to travel anywhere or do anything to ‘attain’ my glasses.
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KeymasterAs mentioned, such situations will always exist (and have existed). When something is not impacted me and mine, should I just focus on myself?
From what I understand, we need to realize what we can change and what we cannot (this is also mentioned in Ch2 – aparihāryārthe na tvaṁ śocitumarhasi, and in Ch18 when describing tāmasikakarma). My understanding is that if we have the means and the resources, we should act as long as it does not disturb us. This is part of the pañca mahāyajñas. I will not be able to sit down quietly if my family, my neighborhood, my community, and other extensions are turbulent. I need to do my part — that is also the duty we have (towards society, sanatanadharma, etc.). And if we do it with the right attitude (do the right thing, offer it to īśvara, take the results as prasāda and keep going), then this is part of the sādhanā. Part of the sādhanā is to prepare the mind and these kind of opportunities provide ways to purify the mind. This of course also depends on one’s disposition, etc. Some people will not be able to not act — for them it is better to contribute in some way (e.g. even participating in some protest, etc.); otherwise they will continue to feel that they didn’t do the right thing (it depends on their nature) and that generates more disturbance for them. Others, who are by nature lot more quiet, may not feel such an urge and they can contribute by different means.
The problem that you point out though is pretty broad and it becomes hard to discuss it in that context (e.g. terrorism in the world). But when I talk about the direct impact on my community due to propaganda and direct action, then it is my duty to spend some time to learn about it, educate others, and do whatever I should do to do the right thing. The key here is that I don’t want to fully get dragged into it such that I ‘become’ my anger/feelings/etc. So I must do it very consciously – I do want to maintain my peace of mind and ensure that the mind doesn’t get into the agitated state of mind (which is an indication that I’m not dealing with it as I should — agitation is a sign that I either didn’t do the right thing, didn’t offer the action to bhagavān, or there is anxiety about the result – meaning I don’t yet trust bhagavān to give me what is due, etc.). So, it depends on how resourceful I am, what stage of sādhanā I am in, what is called for, etc. but surely not doing anything doesn’t sound right (at least learning about the issue, and talking to members in the community to make sure they understand the issues… these kind of activities can be done).
This can be directly related to Arjun’s situation. He also didn’t want to do anything with the war. Just quietly exit and call it a day! You can also see what Bhagavān Saṅkarācārya did, Gurudev did, etc.
April 11, 2024 at 7:23 pm in reply to: Are ignorance and knowledge both technically perfect? #623856CIF Admin
KeymasterCould you please rephrase? The point isn’t clear to me.
Is the main point that the jiva’s ignorance is blameless? Yes, it is not jiva’s fault (the ignorance is beginning-less). However, (as you pointed out) it doesn’t mean the jiva will not suffer because of the ignorance (what has been done in the past and being done now, will produce results; some of them will result in suffering).
From Ishvara’s point of view, everything is happening as per individuals’ past actions, and totality past actions (there is no partiality here). Ishvara is karma-phala-data, governs the law of karma.
Disclaimer: All the above based on my understanding, of course.
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