Have a question?
name would you need a hardcopy of the certificate mailed to you ?
Delete file
Are you sure you want to delete this file?
Cancel Delete
Send enquiry
Message sent Close

Master Gita Master Life | Chapter 13

Chinmaya International Foundation > Master Gita Master Life | Chapter 13
Viewing 1 reply thread
  • Author
    Posts
    • January 17, 2025 at 12:46 am #656649
      Mohit Mishra
      Participant

      Hari Om.

      Am struggling with Jnanam, Jneyam and Jnana-gamyam. Bhagavan says about the 20 virtues as etat jnanam iti proktam.

      In Discourse 8, Swamiji helps us understand:
      1. Jnanam is Consciousness
      2. Jneyam is Consciousness as Brahman (identity). That which is to be known which is Consciousness as Brahman is to be known.
      3. Jnana-Gamyam is that which is revealed through the 20 virtues that Bhagavan mentioned earlier.

      I am struggling to clearly distinguish the three terms. In my mind, I understand the 20 virtues, I understand Consciousness, I understand Consciousness is Brahman (establishing the identity). At the same time, I feel confused with the three terms –

      Question 1: Is Jnanam same as Jnana-gamyam (which is clearly not the case else Bhagavan won’t mention it like that). What is the difference between them?
      Question 2: And what is Jneyam then? The identity of Consciouness (Kshetrajna as in this chapter) as Brahman / Bhagavan when He says kshetrajnam chapi mam viddhi, as I understand. Is my understanding correct?

      Hari Om.

    • February 18, 2025 at 7:55 pm #659468
      Mahavir Jain
      Participant

      Hari Om! Jnanam means both Consciousness and the qualities of Amanitvam, Adambitvam etc.

      Jnanam (Consciousness) can seem abstract and separate from me. To dispel that, Jneyam is said i.e. that which ought to be known as one’s own Self – Aham Brahmasmi, or Keshtrajna as in earlier verses.

      That identity cannot be realized without the qualities, which are also called Jnanam because pursuing or possessing those qualities is what enables realization of this identity between Brahman and Self.

      To state that this realization of identity is by knowledge, not action, nor intellectual understanding, it is said Jnana Gamyam i.e. this realization can only be gained by knowledge that Self and Brahman are one and the same.

      • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by Mahavir Jain.
  • Author
    Posts
Viewing 1 reply thread
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

Categories